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A few weeks ago I grabbed this copy of the Stupids’ Violent Nun EP out of a small buy that came through the store, thinking I would listen to it once and then bring it back to sell to someone else. However, I’ve played it over and over. I actually have a lot of thoughts about the Stupids, so I figured this record would make for a good staff pick.
If you had asked me my opinion on the Stupids before I picked up this copy of Violent Nun, I would have told you they got better with time, starting off as a fairly mediocre hardcore band and maturing into a pretty good skate rock band. I spent some time revisiting their albums over the past day or so and I largely stand by that assessment (with some revisions I will explain below), but I felt like it was important to return to the records because it’s been a very long time since I listened to them and my tastes have changed a lot since then.
As I’m sure I’ve mentioned many times, I spent my early 20s obsessed with the band Leatherface, not only collecting their records but also looking for and listening to other bands that sounded like them. Leatherface was so influential that there are plenty of threads you can pull relating to bands whom they influenced or who influenced them, but one of the most interesting veins of music I hit was a group of melodic hardcore bands from the UK in the late 80s. The most obviously connected band is HDQ (short for “Hung, Drawn, and Quartered”), which was the teenage band of Leatherface guitarist Dickie Hammond. HDQ started as a UK82-influenced punk band, perhaps on the more melodic end of that spectrum, but by the end of their run as a band, on records like Sinking and Soul Finder, they had evolved into a very melodic band that makes perfect sense as an antecedent for Leatherface.
There were several bands who made a similar transition from hardcore to a more earnest melodic punk style. Another favorite was Exit Condition, who released a ripping 7” on Pusmort Records before going full Hüsker Dü on their Days of Wild Skies album. I’d gotten into hardcore as a teen and still loved it even as I was exploring all of this more melodic music, so finding bands who straddled those styles felt like a special discovery that I was uniquely positioned to appreciate, and I gobbled up anything I could find from the late 80s UK. It helped that the music seemed out of fashion, so the records were generally very cheap. I think a lot of them still are. For whatever reason, though, at some point I got my fill of this melodic style and I rarely listen to it nowadays. Even my Leatherface records rarely see any time on my turntable. Maybe I’ve changed, or maybe the world has changed, my tastes tending toward the brutal and/or confounding as society has drifted in those directions.
When I first came to the Stupids, I was viewing them through that lens that helped me to appreciate HDQ and Exit Condition. While I prided myself on liking most of these bands before and after their transitions away from hardcore, the Stupids’ hardcore material always sounded sloppy to me, with too many jokey tracks that took me out of the hardcore groove. Part of the problem might have been that I was listening to these releases on Boss Tuneage’s CD reissues that came out in the late 2000s. Those CDs were packed to the gills with bonus material, and while it’s great to have all of that stuff, listening to any of the discs in their entirety was a bit of a slog. This was particularly true of the earlier material, which wasn’t so much about hooks as short, manic bursts of speed.
Revisiting the Stupids’ discography over the past couple of days, I’m still impressed with their melodic material. While there are hints of melody from the beginning, something seems to click with the song “The Memory Burns,” the Hüsker Dü-ish track that opens their second album.* While I still wasn’t really feeling Peruvian Vacation this time around, “The Memory Burns” is still a standout track. The third album, Van Stupid, is good but suffers a little from the sloppiness and overabundance of jokey tracks that keeps me from embracing Peruvian Vacation, but on the final album of their original run, Jesus Meets the Stupids, everything comes together for a standout skate rock record. There’s even a good amount of straight up ripping hardcore on it. The Stupids’ 2008 comeback single, Feel the Suck, is also excellent, the a-side up there with “The Memory Burns.” I’ve never gotten around to checking out the subsequent reunion album.
One more quick digression: I have a few interesting “small world” type connections with the Stupids that might make me hold them a little closer to my heart. After the Stupids broke up, guitarist Ed Shred continued down the melodic punk path with a string of excellent bands like Sink, Bad Dress Sense, and K-Line, some of whom I’d investigated and blogged about, which led to a correspondence with Ed. When I briefly lived in London in 2008, I went to see Pissed Jeans at the Grosvenor and it was sold out, and somehow I ran into Ed at the pub downstairs and spent the entire evening talking punk with him and his mates. I ran into Ed a few years ago when he was in Raleigh for a memorial show for a friend of his who had moved to Raleigh in the 80s and become an important part of the music scene here. Oh, and on the Stupids’ US tour in the 80s, they played a show at the Fallout Shelter in Raleigh, which is just a block away from Sorry State. Like I said, small world.
Back to Violent Nun. It rips! When I read about the Stupids, a comment I see again and again is that they sounded more like a US hardcore band than an English or European one. I imagine Violent Nun is the record people are referring to when they say that. While bands like Ripcord and Heresy worshipped American hardcore but never sounded exactly like it, Violent Nun has that perfect early 80s-style hardcore production that I can’t get enough of. I’ve always found Peruvian Vacation (the record that came after Violent Nun) rhythmically shaky, but Violent Nun is a locked in ripper, not mechanically tight but powerful. There’s a little of the jokey element, but the proportions are just right, with the focus on tearing it up.
So yeah, new opinion on the Stupids: all eras.
* I avoided writing the name of the Stupids’ second album because its title might offend some people. Which reminds me of another anecdote. People my age who don’t have kids may not know this, but the word “stupid” has become taboo in elementary school settings, with good reason I suppose. I remember an episode of Turned Out a Punk when Damian told a story about one of his kids reacting with shock and horror when he found out a band had named themselves the Stupids. Which is funny because the kid’s father sings for a band called Fucked Up. It’s funny how people’s definition of profanity changes with time and shifting cultural interests and preoccupations.